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While I understand where you are coming from, I do disagree with the idea that there is no such thing as a fanon character.
Your whole argument that there cannot be ‘one’ fanon interpretation is fundamentally rooted in the fallacy that a character cannot be two things at the same time and have a dimensional personality. Why can’t academically gifted yet hates studying Sirius Black not also be artistic, trans, an egotistical bully and/or dramatic? Characters, especially fanon characterisations, don’t necessarily need to be linear and the more contradictory and morally grey the character is, the more relatable they become, as humans are contradictory and not bound to a singular belief or behavior. Imagine if instead of arguing whether Sirius Black was gay or not, what if we allowed him to be a fluid character, who’s stuck in the crossfire of both identities? and he, himself, is not sure who he is. A general consensus of fanon is reached, when there is room or fluidity and we don’t act as if these are all seperate flat fanon personalities and instead acknowledge it as one big amalgamation filled with subjective and contradictory interpretations.
Moving on to the argument that canon marauders are ‘simply blank canvases’ and have no real personality proposes an incredibly superficial perspective on the marauders and makes it incredibly apparent that you only focus on what’s explicitly said in the text and not what the author wants you to conclude. When discussing what the marauder’s did to Severus in Snape’s worst memory - it’s important to understand the context and to not simply take it at face value - you need to ask yourself - why did the marauders feel comfortable stripping and publicly humiliating Snape? How is their moral compass or lack thereof reflected based on the interactions they have with other people? Why does James not see a discrepancy in him bullying his crushes best friend and why does Lily, in spite of this, see no wrong marrying James? When we ask these questions and use our prior knowledge to fill the gaps and inference, it goes from ‘so, James stripped Severus and Severus called Lily a mud blood’ to ‘James was a rich, privileged and popular boy, who had deeply progressive ideals and believed in equality, however, when he felt that others disagreed with his idealistic values, he had no issue weaponizing his privilege, popularity and resources to unfairly humiliate and assault his less privileged opponents, even if the opponent in question, was his crush’s friend. In fact, that was better for him - because if Severus was gone, Lily would like him back - He saw Severus (for lack of a better word) as a cock blocker. That too an extremist cock blocker, who he was prejudiced against because Severus was a Slytherin. And in his eyes, all Slytherins were blood purists and extremists — and Lily, who herself had prejudice against Slytherins and dark magic, agreed with James’s values but despised his violent actions, hence why she hated him. But once, her friend called her a mud blood, she felt scorned and all to eager to believe that he was an extremist, without proper rationale, and now blinded by her bitter resentment for Severus, she justified James’s actions and believed that he wasn’t wrong for being cruel because clearly empathy hadn’t worked for Severus.’
None of what I said is explicitly stated in the books but none of it can be considered a head cannon either (as a head canon is referred to as anything that is contradictory to canon) because what I’ve done is stop looking solely at a characters actions and instead, evaluate what those actions symbolize both in a real life social settings, assuming that these characters are real, and as a piece of literary fiction. It’s important to note, however, that just because it doesn’t contradict canon doesn’t make it canon, for example I can’t say that Regulus dated Sybil Trelawny because while it doesn’t necessarily contradict canon, there is no canon evidence to base this off of. However, if you are pulling canon events, and analysing the context, character behaviour and the characters social status, you can conclude and deduce aspects of canon.
Because like how, a person can (and usually does) express their emotions through physical actions such as tears in their eyes, crouching down and resisting or being overwhelmed social interaction, the same way a person expresses their beliefs, values and feelings through their behaviour, and therefore can deduce a person's beliefs, morals and feelings through their behaviours.
ppl be posting shit like "I miss canon Marauders"
Babes, there is no "canon" Marauders. Most of the shit ya'll think is canon, are just old headcanons that used to be widespread before other (usually queerer) headcanons gained popularity.
There is so little information about the "canon" Marauders - and even the info we have cannot be trusted because it's usually memories, influenced by a character's bias - that trying to make a somewhat comprehensive character out of the given material is impossible, let alone 4 characters.
Everything is fanon. Everything is headcanon. And that's the beauty of this fandom.
(Ofc my favourite part is when something actually is canon via the books or movies, and people reject it as fanon.)
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Childhood best friends to lovers, i love this concept a little too much and got carried away lol <33
She’d never know, at least that’s what he convinced himself of.
She’d never know that she was like a breath of fresh air after drowning for hours, that she was like the first bit of light rising up in the morning, that she was like the feeling of warmth when getting praised, that talking to her was like hearing his favorite song for the first time again, that her laugh was engraved in his brain and he could hear it even when she wasn’t around, that her presence radiated light that seeped right into his bones, that seeing her was like a shot of espresso immediately waking every nerve in his system, that her smile gleamed with such brightness it could light up the whole world in an eternal darkness, that her eyes said so much more than anything she had ever said, that she was a perfectly aligned harmony when everything else was out of tune.
She’d never know, but he did.
She lived within him; His whole life had been reduced to her.
“Wow Art, this is really good!” his literature teacher spoke as she read his paper, “y’know, if the whole tennis thing doesn’t work out, you could be the next big writer, I mean it.”
For his literature class, as a “creative exploration exercise”—his teacher calls it—they had been assigned to write a paper on someone of something which they could understand as unrequited love, of course he had chosen you, because what better example than you and Art.
You and Art have known each other since diapers due to your parents being best friends from their college days up to the present day, which sort of brought the two of you together one way or another, but you wouldn’t have it any other way, and neither would art.
Growing you with you might’ve been one of the best things he has ever been able to experience, he wishes people could actually get to feel what its like to be shined on by your light, for him, it truly is unearthly every time.
Sure, you two had distance shoved in your faces when he went to MRTA, but when he returned home for breaks, it was like nothing changed, it was just you and Art.
And of course as cliché as it may be, the inevitable happened, Art began to fall in love with you.
At first, he tried to convince himself that it was just the affection he had for his best friend, but he had no way to deny it. From the second he stopped just seeing you, but when he started seeing you.
He could try to blame it on his hormones and being a teenager, but everything else contradicted that.
In the summer, seeing you in your two-piece swimsuit didn’t seem the same, especially since you had started to grow into your big girl body, as his nana said.
At Christmas when he saw you walk into the living room dressed as Cindy Lou who from shoes to hair, with a goofy smile, but why did it make him blush? You seemed the same, you did this every year.
Patrick mocked him for having a small picture of the two of you in his wallet, but he didn’t care, whenever he was having a bad day, or missed home, he’d look at the picture, instantly erasing anything that disturbed his thoughts.
But you’d never know that. And he was okay with that. For the most part.
A couple of weeks he went back home for spring break, he was feeing at ease, he’d see his parents, his nana, and…you.
“Artie! My sweet boy!” his grandmother called out as he walked out of the car to the front porch with a suitcase in his hand, and a wide smile. His grandmother ran up to him wrapping her arms around him, her warmth immediately transferring to his skin, he was home.
“Nana, hey, how’ve you been?” he spoke with a sweet tone as he hugged her back. Sure, tennis was his whole life, but coming back home felt like a weight was lifted off his back, he doesn’t have to be THE Art Donaldson, he was just…Art.
“You look so tired baby boy, let me take your bags, go take a shower” his nana said as she shut the door behind her.
“Nana, seriously don’t worry—“
“Will you just let me take care of you while you’re here? You’ve gotta do all this yourself at school, but not here Artie” and well, there isn’t much arguing with nana Donaldson, it’s just how it’s been his whole life.
After his shower, Art walked in his room with a calm breath and loose muscles, how he needed that warm shower, as he walked over to his bag, which was placed next to the window he began to look for some clothes.
He wasn’t one to feel prying eyes on him but by reflex, Art lifted his head as he looked through the window, it was you.
You covered your mouth clearly giggling as he looked down at himself completely naked only covered by a towel wrapped around his waist, “fuck me” he muttered as he looked up once again but now face completely flushed and the tips of his ears burning red.
He waved awkwardly as he pulled the curtains closed feeling flustered, he wanted to get his mind off of her, so he said, how’s that going? Not great.
His nana looked up as he came downstairs with a puzzled expression, your name left his lips.
“What about her?” She asked as she left a plated grilled cheese in front of him.
“Why didn’t you tell me she was home for the break?” She laughed, why is she laughing?
“Sweetie, I thought it was obvious, she always come back home for breaks” she shook her head as she smiled playfully, “though, I think there’s something about her being here that bothers you”
“What— no, no, it doesn’t bother me, I just— would’ve expected something else, I don’t know”
“You sure?” She slid the paper across the counter with delicacy, “are you absolutely sure baby?”
“Nana! I told you to stop snooping, come on!” He said taking the paper as quickly as possible, could this day get any worse?
“One, I wasn’t snooping, it fell out of your backpack, and two, Artie, you know you can tell me anything, right?” He lowered his head ever so slightly as he grabbed the sandwich to then take a bite.
“I know.” He said once he swallowed, she leaned against the counter with curious eyes.
“She’s good, she’s smart, and really talented, did you hear she put out a song?” He lifted his brows in surprise, you really had picked music, over psychology, huh…
“Huh…well that’s great, I’m sure she’ll do great with all that” his nana scoffed as she muttered a small “art…” with a warning tone, “what? I mean it”
“You gotta give me more than that after that thing you wrote, Art, I taught you better than this.”
“I just—! I don’t know what to say, Nana, that’s the problem. Not to you, not to Patrick and most definitely not to her” he spilled, fiddling nervously with his hands, “I’d screw our friendship, one sided feelings aren’t worth risking years of trust.”
“Well you never know Artie, sometimes holding onto those feelings is painful, even if something is on the line, it isn’t worth it if you’re hurting” she was right, but Art would never say that out loud, this was all too much for him.
“It’s just…it’s not easy”
“Well my boy, no one said love was easy, and sometimes, just sometimes, the most complicated loves, are the most beautiful ones” he listened intently as he finished off the grilled cheese, she was right, maybe all he needed to do was tell her.
You had to know.
So there he was at 2:34 a.m throwing small pebbles at your window, just like he did years ago to then go the skate park at midnight and sit at the top of the ramps while you talked till sunrise.
“Stop throwing rocks Donaldson, you’ll wake the dog” you came out the door in pjs but wrapped in a jacket, he turned with a confused expression “I came running down when I felt the first two rocks” you laughed softly as you blushed slightly, God you missed this.
It’s like being kids all over again.
“So how’s tennis and all, Mr. Stanford?” You asked as you swung your hanging feet off the ramp.
“Y’know tennis is the same always, trust me, you don’t care” he laughed as he shook his head, “but Stanford is nice, just not the same without you and Patrick on my ass all the time”
“Ah, of course, because that’s the biggest change you’ve had since we were kids up to today” you rolled your eyes as you tucked a strand of hair behind your ear.
“Yeah…” he chuckled dryly as he looked away, could he be more obvious, goddamn.
“What?”
“No— no, it’s nothing” he insisted.
“Art I know you, it’s not nothing, what’s up?” You pushed as he looked up at the sky biting his lip while humming, “Art?”
“Hm?” He turned to look at you again, you lifted a brow silently asking once again, “ah…I— I love you” he blurted out unable to stop himself.
You opened your mouth but nothing came out.
“I have since the summer you turned fifteen, you just— you kinda started to seem different to me, and I— I fell in love with you.” He sighed, “and I know timing sucks and it’s gonna make things weird, but if I didn’t tell you, it would eat me alive, y’know it’s been so long—“ his rambling got cut off as your lips crashed onto his almost immediately.
His body tensed up completely, the feeling of your lips foreign to his, but so familiar at the same time, the reality was better than any dream he had ever managed to build up in his mind, your plump lips tasting faintly like cherry lip gloss, he was most likely dreaming, he thought, cause there is no way he had told you how he felt, and even less probabilities of him kissing you.
As you pulled away, he found himself instinctively following you with parted lips and eyes shut, he was so high with your mere presence, a soft giggle from you snapped him back to reality as his eyes opened up slowly, pupils blown, he looked as if he had just seen God.
“…Did you just—“
“Kiss you?” You ask slightly tilting your head with a giddy smile, “seems like it”
You shrugged as you snorted softly.
“Oh.” Oh was the only thing his brain could process for him to say still stunned.
“Okay— so you tell me you love me, but I kiss you and all you say is ‘oh’, I mean—“ you said as you licked your lips as you thought.
“I just— I didn’t think you’d— like…you…like…” he fumbled as he tried to pull a thought out of the back of his brain.
“Art, you’re telling me you didn’t expect me to kiss you, when I’ve literally had this…I’ve been in love with you since we were kids, and I��ve been as subtle as a marching band” you tell him as a blush creeps up your face while you chuckle nervously.
“You’re kidding, right?” You shake your head with a small grin, he scoffs as he covers his face with his hands, “am I just that dense?”
“Not dense, more like…oblivious” you laugh as he glares back playfully.
Then there’s beat of silence, that moment where suddenly everything had fallen into place, he’s been pining over you for years, and you’ve waited for the right moment for as long as you can remember, but then the question settles in, what now?
“Uhm…art…?” You turn to him with hesitation, he hums in response “what now? I mean, you’re going back to cali after break and I’m going back to New York…”
“Hm…I hadn’t really thought that far into it” he said softly turning to look at you with gentle eyes, “what now?” He asks back softly.
“I— I like you, Art, I’m in it for the long game.” You spoke honestly as you fiddled with your fingers.
“I’ll play the long game. You’re out there, I’m out there too, we’ll see each other in summer, thanksgiving, and Christmas…I mean it, I— don’t just like you.” He confessed as he chewed on the inside of his cheek nervously.
“I can do that” you said softly, smiling back at him, letting out a small breath, “long game…?”
Your hand cupped his cheek making him face you, he smiled as he nodded, looking down at your lips and back at your eyes “long game.” He muttered as he leaned in kissing you once again, holding you gently in a fear of breaking you.
That right there. That was it, you were the living proof of unrequited love for him.
#art donaldson#mike faist#challengers#art donaldson x reader#art donaldson fic#childhood best friends#i actually love this#baby moon yaps#baby moon writes
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𝒔𝒖𝒎𝒎𝒂𝒓𝒚 — After living in Madrid for nearly a year, Jude's gotten the hang of spanish. So he never thought he’d have to learn a new language just to flirt with someone—until he meets you.
𝒑𝒂𝒊𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈 — Jude Bellingham x Deaf!reader
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Warnings! FLUFF!! Jude is kind of obsessed with you in the best way, lover boy, you're very adorable in this one, reader speaks but can't hear, reader can read lips,
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********** Being deaf and a chatterbox is a contradiction that most people don’t know how to wrap their heads around.
But it’s who you are.
Since you can remember, you've always loved to talk—loved filling spaces with words, with thoughts, with laughter. Being deaf has never stopped you. If anything, it’s only made you more creative in how you communicate.
People underestimate how much talking you can do with your hands, how much personality you can pour into a single sign, a raised brow, a quick smirk. They think "talking" only means sound, that conversations without voices are somehow lesser, as if the absence of noise makes words any less real. You’ve spent your whole life proving them wrong.
And tonight is no different.
Your little brother practically vibrates with excitement next to you, hands flying as he signs about how insane the game was. He’s been a Real Madrid fan for as long as he’s been able to walk, and your parents had gone all out for his birthday—jerseys, meet&greet tickets, the whole experience.
So far, the night has been going well.
Your family has been cheering and chanting for Real Madrid alongside the thousands of other fans packed into the stadium, their voices blending into the electric hum of excitement that fills the air. The game has been nothing short of exhilarating, each pass, each near goal sending waves of emotion through the crowd.
Your hands ache from the number of times you’ve signed to your brother, asking for updates on what’s happening when the movements on the field become too chaotic to follow. He’s been patient, grinning as he translates key moments for you, his enthusiasm infectious.
When the final whistle blows, confirming Real Madrid’s victory, the stadium erupts into cheers. Your family is ecstatic, jumping to their feet and embracing one another in celebration. You smile, soaking in the energy, but exhaustion is already creeping in. The weight of tomorrow morning sits heavily on your shoulders.
You love nights like this—love the way your father’s face lights up after a good match, love the way your younger cousins beam with pride, shouting the players’ names like they know them personally—but you can’t afford to linger. Not when your boss expects you bright-eyed and fully alert at the crack of dawn.
You sigh, glancing at the time. If you leave now, you’ll get home at a decent hour, and maybe you'll get six hours in tonight. I should go, you sign to your brother.
He frowns. So soon?
"I have work in the morning."
He relays this to the rest of your family, and they groan in unison. Your mother reaches out, squeezing your arm in understanding. "Text us when you get home," you read on her lips.
You nod, exchanging quick hugs before making your way toward the exit.
The corridors are still crowded with lingering fans, some of them stopping to take pictures or rewatch highlights on their phones. You weave through them, emerging into the crisp night air just outside the stadium, and pull out your phone to call for an Uber.
Five minutes.
Not too bad.
You exhale, shoving your free hand into the pocket of your jacket as you make your way toward the designated pick-up area near the parking lot. Your feet ache slightly from standing for so long, and the cool breeze is a welcome relief after being surrounded by so much body heat. You scroll through your phone absentmindedly, debating whether to pass the time by answering a few messages or just watching the people around you.
That’s when you feel it.
A presence.
It’s subtle at first—a shift in the atmosphere, a slight prickling at the back of your neck. Then, footsteps. Slow. Unsteady.
You look up just in time to see him stumbling toward you.
The acrid scent of alcohol hits you first. It’s overpowering, the kind of stench that clings to a person’s skin and clothes, the kind that makes your stomach churn. He’s disheveled, his jacket slipping off one shoulder, his eyes unfocused. But there’s something sharp in the way he grins at you, something that immediately puts you on edge.
"Hey," he slurs.
Your grip tightens around your phone. You don't respond. Instead, you take a step back, angling your body away from him. But before you can put more distance between you, his hand shoots out, gripping your wrist with surprising strength.
"I'm talking to you, you little bitch!"
Panic spikes through you like ice water.
Your breath hitches, your heart hammering as you instinctively jerk back, trying to free yourself from his grasp. Your hands move on their own, the motions quick, desperate. Leave me alone.
The man’s face scrunches in confusion. "What? What are you doin' with your hands?"
You swallow hard, pulse racing. You try again, this time forcing yourself to speak, hoping the sounds come out right. "I can't hear you. I'm deaf."
His expression twists into something cruel. "Deaf?" He laughs, loud and mean. "You serious?" His grip tightens. "C'mon, don’t be like that. Just talk to me.I can show you a good time."
Your throat constricts. You shake your head quickly, signing, I’m sorry, I’m sorry, over and over, even though you know there’s nothing to apologize for. It’s just instinct. A plea for him to stop, to let go.
But he doesn’t. If anything, your silence only makes him angrier.
"Stop doin' that shit!" he snaps. "Just say something!"
Before you can react, before the panic fully settles into terror, a shadow moves behind him. Fast. Deliberate. A hand clamps down on his shoulder, yanking him backward with enough force that he nearly loses his balance.
"That’s enough, mate." The voice is low, firm. Unmistakably authoritative.
The drunk stumbles, blinking in confusion as he turns to face whoever pulled him away. And that’s when you see him.
Jude Bellingham.
He’s taller than you expected, broader too, his frame imposing even in casual clothes. His coils are damp, like he just stepped out of the showers, and there’s an undeniable exhaustion in his features—deep shadows under his eyes, a certain heaviness to the way he holds himself.
But none of that matters right now. Right now, his entire focus is on the man in front of him, his jaw tight with barely contained irritation.
The drunk sneers. "Who the fuck—"
"Walk away," Jude says flatly.
The man wobbles slightly, his mind struggling to catch up as he starts recognizes Jude. His eyes widen. "I was just—"
"I don’t care." Jude’s voice is sharper now, cutting through the drunken haze like a blade. "She’s not interested. Walk away."
There’s a moment of hesitation. A beat where the drunk seems to consider whether or not this is a fight worth picking. He glances between you and Jude, his lip curling in annoyance, before finally, begrudgingly, releasing a scoff.
"Whatever," he mutters, stumbling back. "Wasn’t even worth it."
You don’t breathe until he’s gone.
The moment he disappears into the crowd, your entire body sags, tension draining so quickly that your knees feel weak. You swallow, pressing a hand to your chest in an attempt to steady yourself.
Jude turns to you then, his brows knitting together in concern. "You alright?"
You nod automatically, even though you’re not entirely sure it’s true. Your hands tremble slightly as you sign, Thank you.
Jude watches your hands carefully, and your gaze shifts to his lips expecting him to say something next—to offer words you wouldn't be able to hear. Instead, he hesitates, then lifts his hands.
You… okay? The sign is clumsy, the movements stiff, but the effort makes your heart stop.
He had recognized what you were signing before. He had understood. you think.
You nodded, your throat tight with gratitude. He relaxed a little at your response, but still glanced around, protective. "You waiting on someone?" His lips move slower this time, giving you a chance to read them.
You nod again, holding up your phone. "Uber." The words come out in a bit of a slur but he understands them.
Jude frowns, looking at your screen. "Two minutes?"
He must have seen the time displayed on your phone because there’s no way he could’ve understood the tone of your nod. "Yeah."
The way he scowls in response makes you think that’s not an acceptable answer. His eyes shift, scanning the parking lot, and you can practically see the wheels turning in his mind. "Look, you want to wait inside? The security team can keep an eye on you till your Uber arrives."
His concern is sweet, and you find yourself nodding before you can think. "Okay. Thank you."
You let him lead you back to the main building, where there’s a security team waiting by the entrance. He explains your situation, and they offer you a smile. They won't let you stay inside the stadium since the game has already ended, but they’re willing to stand outside with you until your car arrives.
You nod in gratitude and wave a goodbye as Jude makes to leave. You expect him to keep going, to be on his way, but instead, he hesitates. For a second, he just looks at you, as if deciding something, but he shakes his head, offering a quick smile as he slips away into the night.
The security team stays with you the whole time. They make sure you’re safe and wave down your Uber when it arrives. You thank them and climb into your car, making your way home.
That’s it, you think. That’s where the story ends.
But it’s only the beginning.
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-Bianca🌻
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Okay so I know this is a touchy subject already especially since certain people have already been bitchy about it before, but sometimes Crowny is genuinely difficult to play as. I feel super conflicted about them since they're the literal personification of "damn bitch you live like this?"
Realistically, progress isn't linear and different people get different results even if they do the exact same thing, but as of now it feels like they aren't really allowed to improve at all. If you study you're still mediocre leaning towards bad in terms of understanding. You try to workout you see absolutely no results, not even the tiniest bit. When it comes to the other characters, it's always one step forward and two steps back. When you give them a hobby or try to get them to pick up a skill they find little enjoyment. When people bother them they barely fight back or even argue, and when they do it's like a sarcastic quip or a grumble at most. By the end, they haven't even made a dent. These don't make them less of a person and it doesn't make them a failure since the world is quite literally out to get them, but it's like they aren't allowed any satisfaction in their life. (Yeah it's been like a month, maybe barely scratching two in the current timeline so maybe this contradicts what I first said about progress but I'm dumb as hell)
It's wild to go from the side quests, backstory segments, interactions with the ROs and then Crown family just for all the hype to fade when there's a segment with just Crowny all alone. I know that there's a reason for why they are the way they are, but I literally have to take breaks from reading their solitary moments sometimes because it seems to drag on. I know things aren't easy in this universe, I know the world is supposed to be cruel and unfair, but like can they at least get a cake for their efforts? Or a hug? Or be able to sleep through one night and wake up well rested?
I hope I'm not sounding like an asshole or a insane here. Personally, they're relatable in a lot of aspects. I may not have had supernatural shit going after me, but I had a lot of issues that many of their experiences brush way too close to. It's just the way it's presented that makes them feel like they're like the random piece of chewy cartilage in an otherwise perfectly cooked steak, unpleasant but I'm gonna eat it anyway.
I literally just wrote a whole ass book complaining, but I at least wanna say I do love your work, Crowny included even if my words seem to say otherwise, and I'm super excited to see what happens in the timeskip since i know this is like JUST the beginning. I'm like seriously praying my tone is coming off the right way if that's even possible. If you read through all this thanks. I'm not gonna hide behind anon because I at least wanna be able to explain myself if this comes across wrong.
but like can they at least get a cake for their efforts? Or a hug? Or be able to sleep through one night and wake up well rested?
Well no 😭😭
And that comes from the fact that they are self loathing, depressed as hell and have virtually no support system while dealing with things that they aren’t mature enough to handle, actually their mental health is getting far worse which is by design
I feel like perhaps some readers have not realized just how depressed crowny is. All the things you described about them finding little enjoyment, etc., are key markers of major clinical depression
I feel also people did miss the fact that crowny kind of exploded in the library they didn’t shut up, they didn’t let it go which I think is a positive because this is the first time they’ve have enough to say “enough”
Sorry but I like my things slow burn 💀 that Halloween party is meant to be a breakthrough for them and I think perhaps it’s been glossed over by some because what happened to James has gotten the most attention and the final moment in the woods. Crowny outed their “friends” for the first ever and fought back against their tormentor in only one single night. James for all his issues did the one thing that broke the camel’s back and pushed Crowny over the edge, all 7 episodes have led to this
Crowny is meant to fall before they come up that’s how I wanted it because realistically someone could not handle all of this without losing their mind. It has barely been two months, Crowny has only seriously hit the main plot in episode 4 which in the current timeline was about 3 weeks ago (from episode 7)
Truly the progress that crowny did make in episode 7 should have taken longer, people with crowny’s issues spend years in therapy before they feel they have the right to fight back.
There’s a reason episode 7 is the midseason finale. It’s not only about the plot but about crowny themself….
Dw you’re tune is fine I can usually tell when someone doesn’t think before they write 😭
#crowny is actually a response to how the horror genre likes to brush aside the mental degradation of their protagonists#a lot of time they go through traumatic shit and end up fine#crowny#wwc
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It has taken a long while for me to understand that right wing religious seminars are just as popular in the Fundie community as leftwing ones are in the (fragmented) liberal Menno community, and because of where I live, we don't have a lot of them. The Bible says a lot of contradicting things, and there are few things that Christians agree on.
But I keep reading your post and I still would like more information, if you are willing. You don't seem to know what we don't know, and you're taking quite a bit for granted as common knowledge.
Here is my question: What is the logic behind the things that aren't in the Bible, and the things leftwing Christians interpret only as metaphors? The interpretation of Revelation that is so incredibly common regarding spiritual warfare on Earth? When and how did the Antichrist come into play? Disregarding what I believe or don't, what does that even mean? What are they talking about? Why are they so deeply afraid to the point of constant war and such legalism? Even things like the Umbrella of Authority I find confusing, because in my church community, everybody is always equal regardless of gender, and women have always held power in the church's history.
The purpose of their getting involved in politics is to assuage fear and enforce their values, of course. But how did we get these values in the first place? I know you were inside of it, so you will never see what it's like for us from the outside, what we don't know about them, especially people who have been persecuted by various forms of fundamentalists for generations but still try to welcome exfundies openly. But I read your post again, and I guess I just need to keep trying.
You don't seem to know what we don't know, and you're taking quite a bit for granted as common knowledge.
100% true. I'm really struggling with it in the conversations I've been in lately and it's something I'm trying to correct so I appreciate your patience.
I also think part of it is a limitation of my current perspective as well. When I've gone line by line and explained things, it usually leads people to become more entrenched in their negative beliefs about fundies which in turn makes them behave in ways that ultimately fuel their whole bit. So that's why I focus on more overarching aspects.
But if you think it'll help, I'll give it my best shot.
Here is my question: What is the logic behind the things that aren't in the Bible, and the things leftwing Christians interpret only as metaphors?
Biblical literalism has been around for a long long time so I can't speak to all of it.
What I do know is that the thread of it that current day fundamentalists in the US at least have ties to started in the late 1800s as a reaction to the rise in prominence of scientific explanations of the world - think Darwin's work, germ theory, and the discovery of the electron and eventually radioactivity.
What this basically lead to was some Christians believing that a scientific view of the world was compatible with religions and some saying that the Bible took precedent over human modes of knowledge. So the "logic" of Biblical literalism in conjunction with the latter idea was that if God's word took precedent over human knowledge, he would make it very clear - very literal for us
Key to this group's understanding of Christianity was the belief in Christ's miracles as literally happening. With the rise of scientific explanations, there was now this whole new language for trying to discredit those miracles and making fun of people who believed they literally happened. They were a favorite punching bag whenever the scientific community had scandals exposed in particular - "Sure we've basically tortured human subjects in the name of science but at least we don't believe Jesus literally healed the sick, can you imagine?" These groups saw this lack of regard for human life and responded by relying more on God's word which they regarded as perfect in a way humans were not - which essentially meant more literalism.
And you can debate that all you like but that's more or less the basis of it to this day, whether modern fundamentalists know it or not. It's this idea that God wants to be known so why would he obscure himself behind metaphor? And the literal meanings of his word come before all other types of human created knowledge because humans are sinful and faulty and his word is perfect.
The interpretation of Revelation that is so incredibly common regarding spiritual warfare on Earth?
So the interpretation of Revelation varies dramatically between fundamentalists churches. I spent my early years in one that didn't place a big emphasis on it but regarded it as literal and in the future. I spent my middle and high school years in one that regarded Revelations as having begun sometime around the industrial revolution and believed it was already playing out slowly but gaining steam (insert steam powered joke).
Spiritual warfare also varies. Some people think it is angels and demons fighting all around us. Some people think it is in the battle of ideas. My early church believed in the former. My later church believed in the latter. The categories aren't exactly neat and tidy unfortunately.
So it's tough to speak to since it's not terribly unified. I would say in general the literal reading of revelations stems from what I wrote about just before this - why could God obscure himself if he wants to be known?
A common belief I ran into was the idea that a purely metaphorical reading of Revelations was born of fear and a lack of faith in the truth of the Bible. It was kind of a litmus test. People who were unafraid to imagine this terrible future and believe it was real and could happen to them in this lifetime were more faithful than those that wouldn't.
I think it makes sense if you remember a lot of people who left mainline traditions left in part due to difficult experiences which church complacency. The urgency of a literal reading of Revelations speaks to them.
When and how did the Antichrist come into play? Disregarding what I believe or don't, what does that even mean? What are they talking about?
The antichrist is a literal translation of a word made up of the Greek roots for anti and Christ. Its in John's letters:
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. - I John 2:22 (NIV)
This was the one I heard quoted the most but there are other instances too.
I'm less well versed in how he came to have the lore around him that he has with fundamentalists but poking around it looks like it definitely didn't start with fundamentalists. My guess it is a holdover from before their break with mainline Protestantism that took on a new form when it came into contact with biblical literalism. A figure who is against or put in place of Jesus is common in other denominations, my guess is there was a conflation of this figure with the Beast in Revelations due to similar language being used for both.
But that's a guess.
The big "thing" with the antichrist is said to be positing himself as savior of mankind. That's why scientists and the like often get pegged for it. He's also said to bring a quickening to the end of days.
I'm realizing I'm probably taking a lot for granted here. I'm not sure how to explain the antichrist. He's just a real bad guy and he could be anyone. He's the Red Scare but a literal person.
Why are they so deeply afraid to the point of constant war and such legalism?
I mean I don't know what to tell you there. Life is fucking scary.
One day, I'm laughing with my mom. 24 hours later I'm in a hospital watching her on a ventilator and not recognizing me. That's scary.
One day my body more or less worked and the next day I woke up and my hands were in so much pain I couldn't move them. At 24 years old. That's scary.
Think of all the things you can't control that determine the course of your life - war, famine, disease. That shit is scary.
That's admittedly is my generous response.
That initial fear has been coopted by prominent figures who basically draw the line from more universal fears to anxieties people have about their place in the world and then to things like gender and sexuality - things that can be controlled.
The legalism is as much a way to understand it as it is a reaction to it. It's rooting in this idea that if we were to live in alignment with God's word, much of the terrible things we're experiencing wouldn't be happening (which is false but it's compelling to some people).
Even things like the Umbrella of Authority I find confusing, because in my church community, everybody is always equal regardless of gender, and women have always held power in the church's history.
There's also lots of verses about women needing to be quiet and obey their husbands and not wear certain adornments and the list goes on. While yes, individual women have carved out and held on to power in the church, they're more the exception than the rule when taken over the course of the church's entire history. Which is just to say that women's place in the church in any denomination is complicated.
For instance, look how many fundamentalist women have run for office and won. They're playing to a particular archetype within fundamentalist Christianity as the secondary protectors of the family. They tend to focus on issues relating to children for that reason. They have power but it's within the narrow confines of what a woman should be.
Umbrella of protection can be more "natural law" flavored or more "mystical" flavored. I was in a "natural law" family. And that idea held that obedience to my parents but in particular my father was the model by which I would learn to obey God. If I didn't obey them, then I wouldn't know how to obey God. If I didn't know how to obey God then I would sin and bad things would happen to me.
I knew a handful of people who were in the more mystical flavored version but to be honest I'm not completely clear on how that worked. My impression of it was that I guess the dad as the head of the household was granted a certain measure of power to protect his family but he could only use if they obeyed. And in return he was supposed to only ask for their obedience where their safety mattered not merely on a whim but that's not usually how that played out.
The purpose of their getting involved in politics is to assuage fear and enforce their values, of course. But how did we get these values in the first place?
There's a theological component to this answer and there's a political component.
The theological component has to do with that literal reading of and primacy of the Bible. It's read not only as a description of what's wrong with the world but also how it's supposed to be. Their reading of it emphasizes themes in the New Testament as Jesus being the sacrifice that would restore order to the world. So they in turn see an emphasis on Jesus and order to be key to dealing with what is wrong with the world (i.e. whatever scares them). Part of their view of order also emphasizes family in imitation of the holy family.
The political component is that in the middle of the 20th century, conservative strategists specifically started courting big figures in the fundamentalist movement. Both were eager to get fundies more involved in politics but for slightly different reasons. Fundamentalist leaders saw it as advocating for good and a way to distinguish themselves from mainline denominations which weren't generally that politically active. Conservative operators saw how fired up fundies could get as revivals and similar and wanted to funnel that toward their political aims.
There was a shift in how fundamentalist leaders talked about money in particular during this time, emphasizing it as a means by with to do the work of the lord and a sign of God's favor when earned justly. Conservative messaging to their new base emphasized impacts on families and it's the emphasis they still lead with.
So where outsiders see contradiction, it's generally not seen as contradicting when looking through the lens of protecting and benefiting the family. Guns - allow you to protect your family. Regulations - limit how well you can provide for your family. Immigrants - are a threat to your ability to provide for your family. God came into the world via a particular kind of family and we were supposed to live in imitation of that - hence the opposition to queer people and trans folks.
Obviously I don't agree with that and obviously it's more to do with people just being biased and afraid but that's the underpinning by which those fears get organized into a political system of values that we see playing out right now.
I know you were inside of it, so you will never see what it's like for us from the outside, what we don't know about them, especially people who have been persecuted by various forms of fundamentalists for generations but still try to welcome exfundies openly.
You're right that I don't know it the way you know it. That's for sure.
But I would also point out that I am queer and trans and realized both of these things while still inside the church. I got persecuted from within and I got persecuted when I got pushed out. So while I don't have the intergenerational aspect you speak of, I have definitely been and currently am persecuted by them in my daily life so I have a small insight into what that can be like. It's hell, it really is.
I appreciate you wanting to learn. I hope this post is a little more enlightening. It's the truth as best I know it but I know I'm missing information myself.
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I find the way that BBC Merlin set up Merlin's powers in the first episode to be quite funny. I mean, we see this sort of lanky guy and it is established that he is Merlin and (according to our own common knowledge) therefore he is the most powerful warlock ever. Okay, cool. One might assume that he has come to Gaius to develop his powers, that maybe he's only in the beginning of his magical journey. But instead the exposition shows Merlin, in the pilot episode of this 5 series show, stop time and employ levitation to save someone's life with magic, and then it is announced that prince Arthur is essentially his soulmate, and their joint power will create the most glorious age Camelot has ever seen. Quite an exciting set-up. And then for the rest of the entire show this man who we know possesses TIME-ALTERING POWERS mostly uses them on-screen to do common chores and annoy and prank THAT SAME Arthur. Like that one post said, "All of it's destiny and all of it's his fault." :p
#i also think something tragic comes out of this#he thought things would go as destiny said they would so he did not really try to contradict arthur at all#also poor morgana - but that's a whole other topic#perpetuating repressed queerphobia metaphor? never#he is set up as an almost-god almighty and loving and kind#and both merlin and us imagine this beautiful kingdom#but then even when arthur is king nothing really changes#and it's for many factors one of which is that nothing changes without a fight (queer metaphor? never)#and another is just the heartbreaking fact that merlin is too compassionate for radical action#merlin loves arthur in one way or another#but still his love doesn't compete with his kindness#so at least firstly he can't bring himself to sacrifice someone in the present for an abstract future arthur#a god cannot afford to be too kind#especially not when it comes to time#and even in the pilot his godly powers are attached to a kindness#an obvious one like saving a life#but still a kindness that perhaps not everyone would have employed#bbc merlin#merthur#i'm sorry merlin - you deserved more
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Given how Adam's scar isn't stretched or distorted, he was probably branded as a late teen
#rwde#third times the fucking charm hopefully!!!#working on the essay again and went down a bit of a rabbit hole in regards to the scar#went too realistic bc they obvs just colorpicked zukos scar so its impossible to figure out how old it is based on looks#zukos scar was 2 years old iirc so it could be the same for adam#tho that would mean he's only been free for 2 years. and considering shawluna claim 2 years have passed since the start of rwby...#ooth comic blake meets adam a year prior to her sneaking out for missions - a fun contradiction to her wholesale running away in the show#also an impossible one unless she can teleport between menagerie and vale but WHATEVER#rwby: where canon is made on the fly and consistency doesnt matter#anyway that scar is at least 3 years old by v6#still means that adam spent most of his life a slave and the last 2 years of it under cinder/salems thumbs#boy had maybe a whole year of freedom and he spent it fighting for faunus right#god i wish crwby had actually respected and been curious abt the character they created he could have been SO FUCKING GOOD#HOW DO YOU FUCK UP SUCH A JUICY CHARACTER CONCEPT I AM AND FOREVER WILL BE LIVID
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I will always be thinking about how, at the end of Decision to Leave, the female lead decides to kill herself in a way that will make it harder to find her body--because this way, the male lead, despite his distrust and complicated feelings toward her, will be more likely to continue thinking about her because he won't know what happened. In some sense, she'll remain a mystery; and in doing so, she might be able to keep her place in his thoughts (and, by extension, his heart).
That's just...that's so fucking bleak, man.
#I have complex feelings toward the movie itself but the ending...#tw: suicide#'if I can make you mourn me or miss me then maybe it will make you love me the way I want'#her basically asking 'will I finally be loved in death' jfc#despite the fact that she wouldn't even BE there to know about it. or have him do anything about whatever feelings might crop up.#that's just. genuinely one of the saddest things I've ever seen.#(especially because. yeah I've been there. I know what that feels like. the only way people could like you is if they can romanticize you#in a way you can't ever contradict because you're not here. if you can't fix things & make people like you maybe you can make them MISS you#(obviously my circumstances are. a LOT different here. I am not someone who's been responsible for the death of two of my husbands a;dksfjd#(but I HAVE been in the place where it feels like this is the only chance left for you to create any kind of lasting non-negative feelings#toward you. and being in that place SUCKS.)#(in case anyone is wondering why Women's Wrongs™ in fiction speaks to much to me. it's because of the whole Grappling With Uncomfortable#Emotions thing. women who do Women's Wrongs™ are more likely to be allowed to feel and explore those uncomfortable emotions)#ALSO!!!!!! this is not how life works. I know it can be tempting to think this is all that's left that it's the only way out that it's the#hail mary of 'making people love you' but it's not. it is not going to help you it is not going to make anything better and you will not#be around to feel the effects of ANY love regardless of if it's already there or comes up later. all you'll be is...not here.#and all of you deserve to be here. I WANT you to be here <3
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it feels so wrong to be alive, i should be dead, i Am dead but im not dead im alive and every single day i feel like i should be dead but i already Am dead im a walking corpse and yet im a living human being and it hurts cause i should be dead
(unrelated to my depression, thats a separate thing)
#delusionposting#i think this particular delusion is what causes me the most pain im ngl#mainly cause im just kind of. constantly being reality checked by virtue of just existing#with my other delusions theres a. i forgot the term. but like its possible to go on my whole life without being contradicted technically#but this one im just like. well Clearly youre not a walking corpse youre breathing you bleed you hurt you feel tired#and its like well! i guess! i shouldnt be tho! i should be feeling nothing and maybe even rotting!#and maybe even ''living'' as a ghost who can see the body from the outside and is incorporeal!#but its whatever
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been looking in tags for a few days now to see if anyone else found the whole high cloud quintet and related story to be a bit.....poorly written, nonsensical, contradictory, full of plot holes and loose ends, etc. apparently i'm not the only one. (and i'm not even talking about shipping stuff, because any time I saw someone mad about bad writing, someone always replies to be homophobic and laugh about failed ships. weirdos.) it could have been so good but was thrown into the garbage for the most part (IF you noticed all the plot holes and contradiction. if not, then it's a fine enough story tbh. I expect most people to see it on surface level and not read all the little hidden lore bits and try to piece it together like my autistic brain did. which is ok! enjoy it if you liked it and ignore me 😆)
#apparently one of the writers did it on purpose. wont explain here. you can find it elsewhere. but it makes sense now#that's why it fell apart and didnt make sense in the end#ive seem people say anyone mad about it is a shipper and thats why. they use it as an excuse to be homophobes#youre gross get out of thos fandom. im here as someone upset about the story who was very skeptical about any ship theories and focused#more on plot theories and overall friendship and stuff so its not even about shipping you het weirdos!!!#the contradictions and plot holes are bd regrdless of who you ship lmao stop reducing it to that#aure its fine if you ignlre those plot holes. but it happened to be the little plot holes that interested me the most so its obvious to me😅#cant wait until a talented writer in the fandom rewrites the whole story a lot better and fills in the holes and ties up the end better#please someone do this 😭#lee text#hsr#i just wanted a close found family who met a tragic end#my idea for a better way to write it is dan feng wanted free from the high elder cycle and yingxing helped him create a new elder#but it went wrong and failed because the preceptors fed him wrong info hopong it woukd destroy dan feng since they hated him#instead it was yingxing that died and dan feng selfishly brought him back somehow and thats why hes immortal and hates dan heng now#they created a monster in the process that made a mess and baiheng died trying to kill it maybe but hit its weak spot#so it was weaked enough for jingliu to slay it#maybe for a plot twist jing yuan somehow knew the preceptors were up to something and didnt stop the two because#they were too stubborn and he knew it would do nothing#we know the dragon heart disappeared so either it ended becoming bailu in the end#or it could be inaide blade bow. another fun possible plot twist. they never explained where it went so it coukd be a n y w h e r e#i had other ideas but i forget now. bht baiheng deserves better as well. just being a plot mechanism to make two dudes be stupid#is kinda bland and boring and wasted her character. she deserves better too!!!!#id write this if i had the time and brain power but ill hope someone else does it instead#OH yeah i forgot a big idea. dan feng and yingxing perhaps try to also kill the arbor and end the abundance and long life/reincarnation#and maybe that was one part that led to it all going wrong or something. since yingxing wanted revenge on the abundance for destroying#his home and family???? and dan feng wanted to escape the cycle? similar wants that worked together snd failed#these are all ideas from past theories i read and my own ideas i came up with all of which are better than what that bad writer did!#these are very incomplete ideas that im sure someone else can write better#lee rambles
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me at 13: by the time im 30 i will probably be married and maybe have a kid but for sure i will be living in my dream city and have my dream job. and also a lot of money
me at almost 30: i think i will treat myself to a corn dog this weekend
#i want a corn dog so bad rn#ngl u guys im actually really struggling with turning 30 at the end of the year lmao#not lmao bc it really is bothering me which is so stupid i know I Know#but. and i know we're All struggling with this. but it's like god i have done nothing with my life#like fr. everyone says that but i literally have done nothing. ive never had a real 9-5 ive been freelancing since college#and tbh i guess that's not a bad thing? but self worth wise i feel like a complete loser.#but ive just made one mistake after another and i know that's what your 20s are for and u know what this is my tags and im not going#to keep contradicting myself i feel like shit bc i feel like shit and ive wasted my whole life thats that#i just feel like such a sham like i cant believe this is what 30 is like i on god feel like im still a teenager#not in a carefree kind of way OBVIOUSLY. which i never was anyway. but i just ?? feel like that#scary fucking episode of rugrats where tommy and chuckie become their dads and they go to work and theyre so fucked up bc#well theyre babies and they dont know anything. and even the fact that i just referenced rugrats to explain how i feel lmaooooo#relationship wise well u guys know how that is. and i truly couldnt care less about what people think about me not being in a relationship#ever and tbqh i dont give a fuck anymore either like. and here i go bringing this up again. but after my ex im like ok life truly is so#short fr i dont even care like anyway. anyway. the point is there is just no reality whatsoever where i pictured my life where i am now#once again living with the abusive relative i moved across the ocean to get away from.#no love life to speak of. fr dont care but god wouldnt it be nice to be loved fr.....#no career. living in a state i hate with all my heart. barely surviving money wise. which is everyone rn but#if i had known 10 years ago this would be my life i would have honestly killed myself.#like if i knew it would all turn out like this i wouldnt have moved i wouldve just fr killed myself and i wish i did lol#to be fair. i didnt see myself living past 18 but like. i just thought something would have saved me by now
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there are no words to describe my orientation at all and its so funny
#yes im aroace#yes im pan#yes im kinda grossed out by romance#yes im also a hopeless romantic#yes im repulsed by the thought of sex#yes i want someone to love me in a passionate way thats just between us#yes i want one special person to spend my life with#yes i want a whole polycule where i can kiss all of the people who mean the world to me#i am a walking contradiction#and i love it#but i also hate it#ironically
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idk about this math like dw that's the point!
#i mean they can just say something like that and i'll fold immediately yeah#fish advertisement is so awful though#how about we have a fish competition instead and they choose me and my wellbeing for once that would be so neat#anyway thing is#i really need to stop stressing out sm if not for the sake of being alive than just so my cats wouldn't have to see me going crazy so often#because i probably freak them out#and i have a responsibility not to#i get like all overwhelmed with uncompleted tasks dissociate all the time can do nothing pretty much#and then something happens and i can't break things i can't really make noise i can't yell crying is stupid >>#>> i just feel like i might explode to bits fr#worst thing ever#and they#are biting off the god damn wallpaper#and i literally get attacked to death every time i say anything#or when i don't#if it takes brain empty to survive the micromanagement hell + math hell + my whole life hell then so be it#but thinking about them is still best thing ever#but#why did they kill me ten million times#???����🤨🧐#it's a question to ask#oh there they go again cool 🆒#ugh gaslight girlboss gatekeep👎#please don't talk about literal people like that that's fascist as hell#also#what in the world could i possibly be using you for to think that way for a second selfishly having various in love emotions?#feeding my immense ego by expressing affection and care and getting high on manipulating everyone into thinking i'm not secretly evil?#peak crime feeling safe and comfortable?#that last one isn't even possible and the rest is you know the rest :D#how can anyone at all prove they don't have a million secret evil layers that entirely contradict everything they always say and do really
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its like. i LIKE ezio!! and ezio wants to avenge his family and save people and destroy the group that led to all this harm!! but i know that he doesn’t!!!! the games keep going and the modern day segments are there and the war does not end with him!!!
ezio thinks he can end this war. and i know he doesn’t.
this is a tragedy.
#if he just kills the right people. you know?#which is like. feels like the whole root of conflict in the assassins in the first place#you can’t free a world through death! you cannot build a world on death!!!! you have to build with the living. not with a blade always ready#to strike. so they believe themselves a necessary evil and that others will step in to do the building for them#but like god look at the villa part of the game!!! there’s no finer metaphor for how much ezio should be with the people building a better#world than the fact that on the side he is TRYING!!!!#that his whole life now is one defined by death and his will to wield it but. but. GAH. FUCK.#the assassins exist as a contradiction. a creed is an abstract but people aren’t! people live!#the dual identity of the assassin and the man. i watched that lil short film with his dad? and it’s just. it destroys someone! to be this!#anyway. i don’t know if the game actually gives enough of a shit about this to. talk about it. but like god i hope so.#because it fascinates me.#you can’t just stumble into something that thematically rich on accident
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William Afton's ending in Five Nights at Freddy's> Xehanort's ending in Kingdom Hearts
Why am I making this comparison? Because the FNAF and KH franchises have quite a few things in common, and one of these things are just how similar their main series villains are.
I'll take William Afton's ghost, in his animatronic suite, being burnt alive as his old friend Henry Emily tells him the deepest part of Hell has opened up to welcome him, so don't keep the Devil waiting over Xehanort getting to pretty much go to Kingdom Hearts heaven with his best friend, who he'd murdered, after he had just murdered Kairi any day.
Both of these characters are child murderers, essentially (I say "essentially," because I know someone will argue that Xehanort leading Ven to the point where his heart was shattered, and he became comatose for a decade+--and would have been much worse off if Sora hadn't helped him--isn't actually murder. But this is a Disney series rated E10+. I imagine they can only do so much. Plus, when he was causing worlds to get blown up in KHI, I feel like those people were dead. And, no: the fact that Sora was able to bring these worlds--and the people--back at the end of the game doesn't make it better), and Xehanort deserved something akin to what William Afton got.
"Oh, but we've learned now that Xehanort had good intentions and he had a sad past."
I don't care! His "good intentions" excuse nothing with the actions he took to get there! And William Afton probably killed Henry Emily's daughter because he blamed him for his own son's death (so he also had a "sad past")... and while you may understand that logic, does it excuse that or anything else he's done? No.
#i should mention that i love both of these franchises now and i'm not saying one is better than another#if i'm being honest i got into kh first--i've pretty much loved kh my whole life--so if i had to choose i'd pick kh over it#and i do think it's better than fnaf in some areas (though i think fnaf is better than it in some)#though kh is SO not perfect (if anyone knows me at all you know i know that and have talked about some of these things in length before)#and i think this is one of the things that fnaf did better#one of the things fnaf does NOT do better is now having its books be canon and expecting all of the fans to read them#kh fans for years have been angry about final mix games not being released everywhere (now they finally are) and the console hopping and#when it seems like you need to read a nomura interview or ultimania to completely understand something#it's even gotten to the point where some fans have even decided to try and ignore the nomura intervews from now on. and just take the games#as are. especially since sometimes nomura has later contradicted himself#if the kh series ever attempted something like this kh fans would not have it and we would be reading nomura and square enix the riot act#and for good reason imo
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good time for a little reminder that this was a thing from an official interview if i'm not mistaken <3
Warning! Long ramble about Rex ahead!
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I've been doing a lot of thinking about this scene. I'll try my best to organize my thoughts!
(heads up: This is operating under the assumption that (basically) everything that happens in the movies is real.)
To begin with, we gotta address the irony of this line... Like, Rex, you do realize that you're just a piece of plastic too, right? And so is Emmet?
But before I look at that, I wanna touch on the line he says right after that,
"You still wanna go back to the Matrix when you know the truth???"
Now, I haven't seen The Matrix, I'll admit to that. But because it's ingrained in pop culture, I know the gist of it.
But anyway, one obvious truth from it is that once you're aware the world is a simulation, you can never really go back completely, not without sacrifice, because you know it's not real.
Now, call me captain obvious, but by his line there, he clearly can't be referring to his time on Undar--because Emmet hadn't experienced that, nor had he understood when Rex told him about it. I'm convinced he has to be referring to the first movie, and their experience in the Realm of the Man Upstairs.
While he was there in the first movie Emmet saw his world for what it was. He saw Finn playing with Benny's spaceship, hinting at the kind of control Finn had over his world. but Emmet himself interacts with Finn himself.
As far as Emmet knows... He's different. He's not under Finn's control. All of his friends? Things made up by a giant unknown creature. But not him.
He knows the nature of his world, but is still happy to rejoin it, so long as he has a place in it...
But then came Undar.
On Undar he sees, yet again, the absolute lack of control his world has. The moment Finn leaves the picture and Bianca takes over, it's as if he never existed in the first place. He doesn't recognize his friends, because the personalities he'd come to know, literally, the people he knew, were completely gone.
It's there that he realizes that they truly are pieces of plastic.
I can't imagine how fucking lonely that must have felt. To see how little your life truly mattered in the universe, that you could be warped and changed without recognition and be none the wiser, to know who you were was as inconsequential as a thought.
As far as Rex knows, he and Emmet are the only Real ones in existence. The only ones that can retain who they are.
Rather ironic, again, when we see how much Rex changes himself.
So when he says "You still wanna go back to The Matrix?" it's more so incredulity that he, as Emmet, ever wanted to go back, that he ever put any value into the world that was nothing but an illusion.
This could also explain why Rex was so quick to turn on Emmet in Undar. Once he saw Emmet wasn't going to change, was never going to give up on his fantasy world, he had no problem seeking to destroy him. In the Realm of the Man Upstairs, knew he would live on, since he's Real. He could get rid of this failure, further cementing himself as Rex, and move on to the next timeline to try again.
It's when Lucy enters the picture and brings back Imagination that things go to shit for Rex. Outside of the Realm of the Man Upstairs they're under the giant beings' control again. What happens here is out of Rex's ability to change.
And, sure enough, Finn has him disappear.
It's just... So, so fucking sad. Can you just imagine how many nights Emmet must have lain awake during those five years, bearing the weight of his knowledge of the entire world on his shoulders? Knowing everything was an illusion?? His home, his friends, Lucy, all just the product of a child's imagination???
No wonder Emmet was able to move on so easily once Rex disappeared.
It really was easier for him to forget the nature of The Matrix and just rejoin it and be happy. Having to deal with the weight of it would crush and mangle him, the way it had Rex.
#but guys holy shit you two COOKED#also if i remember right the op from the reblog wrote ''try try again'' and sigh i miss that fic so much man it was so good#though i completely understand if the hiatus was a sudden lack of motivation cause well; happens to all of us yk#but allow me to bow my little thanks. one of the best 13 chapters ive read in my life#tlm#fanfiction#(mention)#edit#im glad were going under the assumption that what happens is real considering the whole Breakdacing Minifig bit from the first movie cause#god the sentience factor has been tearing me apart for MONTHS the movie just keeps contradicting itself#the second one i mean the first one doesnt linger on this enough for a contradiction#but if were going under that assumption then theres still questions left to answer#small ones like the whole marker debacle (how?? did lucy??? get one?? before they even FOUND the relic room????)#or bigger ones like. does the time travel happen then or#is it just finn finding his old emmet#cause THEN the assumption is that its not real technically#and while that is implied sometimes in the movie that that is the case#theres also scenes where its implied otherwise?????#that rex rlly DID travel time???? irl?????#but like if he DID then does that mean when he made the ship he knew it couldnt physically ''take off'' on its own without the kid picking#it up. so he just got in and waited for him to find the ship and think its a present or something#honestly the ''imagination returning'' bit confused me too like is it just finn and bianca finding em and rex#but wouldnt...finn and bianca KNOW of all this.... if rex shot emmet out in space....#but they dont cause theyre having a talk and packing the legos up in the meantime......#i think i need someone to sit me down and explain how they see the movie with the Real Assumption cause this has been driving me insane for#the past 9 months#it shouldnt even be an assumption cause if none of this IS real INCLUDING emmet and rex then THAT contradicts the first movie#god i need to lie down#pixie talks
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